Beware of the Law of Unintended Consequences

11/16/2012 4:24 pm EST


John Murphy

Head Market Analyst,

Beware of the Law of Unintended Consequences

Veteran technical analyst, John Murphy, talks about the profound impact that the various rounds of quantitative easing have had on the markets.

Quantitative easing and its effects on the markets.  We’re here with John Murphy who is going to talk a little bit about what quantitative easing means to different market sectors.

Actually it has a very, very profound impact.  One of the things the Fed is trying to do with quantitative easing—aside from trying to boost the economy—is they’re trying to move investors out of Treasury bonds and into riskier assets.  Stocks, obviously are a good example, commodities.  Gold, for example, has really gone up quite sharply since QE3, but commodities in general.  Part of the reason for that is that it weakens the dollar.  QE3 tends to weaken the dollar.  Every time we’ve had a bout of quantitative easing the dollar has gone down, commodities have gone up and stocks have gone up, but even within the bond market.  We tend to talk about Treasuries, but within the bond market itself money had moved into high-yield bonds, for example.  High-yield bonds average what 6%?  They have a yield of 6% vs. under 2% for Treasuries.  That’s been the biggest beneficiary of bond flows over the last year, but also investment grade bonds that yield about 4%, they’re also attracting money, and also TIPS, Treasury Inflation Protected Securities.  In fact, since QE3, the middle of September, TIPS have been the best performing bond category.


Yeah, because for the same reason that gold went up.  That it has an inflationary impact to it so money flows into TIPS.  When we talk about bonds I think it’s very important to distinguish that we generally talk about Treasuries, so Treasuries may not be a great place to be right now.

There are other areas of bonds that actually are doing quite well, so actually the quantitative easing has affected the dollar.  It has affected commodities.  It has affected stocks.  It has also affected bonds.  Then just one final thing in stocks, one area that has really benefited is dividend paying stocks.  They search for yield.  Right now the dividend stocks are paying about twice what you can get from the ten year.  That’s the first time we’ve seen that in 50 years.

Right, and you have that risk-off encouragement from the government, so that people are going to go out, and they’re going to look for their yield somewhere else and feel a little bit more comfortable.

Well, people who are conservative, people who are bond investors who maybe don’t trust the stock market rally.  They think it’s a little artificial but they sort of have to get in there.  Dividend paying stocks are a relatively safe way to do it.  For one thing it cushions you against any declines, but dividend paying stocks tend to be defensive stocks.

Telecom, utilities, consumer staples, healthcare; so there is also a defensive element so it’s a safer way for a conservative investor to get in there.  It seems like that’s where the Fed is trying to push people.

Right and it seems with all the problems the banks have had, people probably trust AT&T more than they do their local bank.

That’s right.  One other area I might mention is home-building stocks.

Are they coming back?

Oh, last October when they started Operation Twist, when they sold short-term paper and bought long-term paper, that really pushed bond yields lower for the first time in a long time.  Since then home-building stocks have been the strongest part of the stock market.


The home-building index began a rally at the point like the ITB, which is the home-building ETF, it’s trading at a four-year high, has been the strongest part of the stock market, so housing is another area that is benefiting greatly from quantitative easing.

Well it’s good to have it then, anything that will help the economy.

I don’t know what the long-term implications are, and I’m not sure it’s even a good thing, but it is affecting asset allocation.

It is what it’s doing.

You got to be aware of it and you got to know where to go.

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